New online group for EFT in the NHS

UPDATE: This online group is no longer available

My good friend Liz Kirsopp a mental health worker here in Gateshead has started an email forum for NHS staff who use, or want to use, EFT in their work.

You are most welcome wherever in the country you live and work and whatever kind of job you do in or around the NHS so long as you are interested in using EFT in your work.

I am a primary care mental health worker in the North East of England. I’ve been using EFT for nearly 2 years now with some spectacular results. And some very good ones. And the occasional puzzled frown or accusation of making a monkey out of people.

My hope for these pages is that we can share our experiences and skills and support each other in our work. Also that we develop EFT for most effective use in a public service. I think this means we need to keep it as rational and evidence based as possible so that we can more easily promote and defend it in medical circles and with commissioners etc.

I invite your comments and suggestions at all times on our purposes and how best we can achieve them.

If you would like to take part in this forum on googlegroups or find out more send an email to Liz (liz at eftcafe dot co dot uk)


We are restarting this idea with a new online forum for practitioners in the NHS who use EFT or TFT. You can visit the NENET site here, but you will need to follow the instructions on the welcome page if you want to join.

Important: This new forum is not supported or endorsed by the NHS in any way.


14 thoughts on “New online group for EFT in the NHS”

  1. Sorry to break it to you but EFT and NLP are nothing more than the placebo effect.

    To align these with counselling and psychotherapy is unethical – they belong in the New-Age rubric, along with crystals and reiki. This isn’t alternative, this is magical thinking and has no place in the NHS.

    I’m actually quite troubled that people working in mental health have such naive views.

    • there is actually a lot of science that proves the efficacy of EFT. There have been many many clinical trials and studies done, thanks to Dr. Bruce Lipton, Dr. Dawson Church, Dr. David Feinstein and Dr. Phil Mollon. You might like to keep up to date with all the current research by clicking this link Harvard Medical School say that EFT decreases blood flow to the Amygdala, releases endorphins, which in turn increases GABA waves. Dr. David Feinstein has discovered that ‘stimulating acupressure points reduces arousal in the Amygdala. These opposing signals quickly communicate to the brain that there is no danger and reprogram the circuitry of the brain’. It’s nice to move forward with science and not stay stuck in newtonian beliefs.

      • I agree. There has been a lot of research done and more is needed. EFT is such a “broad spectrum” tool that finding out what works and how it works will take a very long time. I think it will be slow, but very interesting process.

        • Andy, I thought that you might like to know that I am starting a clinical trial in 2014 using EEG to see what is going on in the brain before, during and after using EFT for pain. I will keep you posted if you are interested in this type of study. I am also using EFT for cancer pain within the NHS, at St. Joseph’s Hospice. I find it absurd that intelligent people think that EFT is a placebo as none of my clients (olympic athletes, footballer’s and other sport professionals) believed in it whatsoever. The more skeptical the better in my practise.

          • Hi Carey, that sounds great and I look forward to hearing about it. Personally I’m not too bothered about the ‘placebo’ slur, even if EFT was just a placebo, it’s a very effective placebo, and anything we can do to make it an even more effective placebo the better ;). The more research we do the less easy it will be to write off as a placebo. In my opinion, especially in the kind of work you are doing, the benefits to the client/patient are much more important than the explanation.

  2. ‘Nothing more than the placebo effect’ – You have done extensive research to demonstrate this? Or for that matter extensive research on either.

    Your earlier observation was that there were no significant research studies into NLP (or EFT) that it was all anecdotal. If that’s the case then nobody (statistically at least) knows what the benefits (if any) are let alone what they might be due to.

    Personally I think the placebo effect gets a bad rap – see my article linking to Ben Goldacre’s excellent Radio 4 programs on the placebo effect.

    How specifically is aligning them with psychotherapy and counselling unethical? Counsellors and therapists I know use EFT as part of their work under their relevant ethical standards.

    There is an association of NLP therapists (NLPtCA) affiliated to the UKCP one the main accrediting bodies of therapy in the UK.

    This is not to say that ‘New Agers’ (whoever they might be) use EFT with or without their crystals and reiki. All sorts of people make all sorts of claims for it – most of them bunk in my opinion. All sorts of people offer all kinds of services that it would probably be better they didn’t. That’s unfortunate but it doesn’t invalidate NLP or EFT.

    On the other hand a few hardy souls offer scientifically based explanations of what is going on – search for Ronald Ruden – “Why tapping works” and Phil Mollon with a review of the research that I downloaded from the British Psychological Society that well known coven of crystal healers and reiki-ists.

    Those people in the NHS I know that are using EFT are using it because it gets the results they want. Particularly in areas where CBT the current therapy de jour doesn’t work so well – trauma, for example. None are naive, all of them are professional and have a professional interest in serving their clients.

    I’m troubled that you think you can evaluate the views of people working in mental health without finding out what they are.

  3. I have only one thing to say to L Street. Try it. I invite you to come and see EFT being done at one of Andy’s trainings or EFT cafe sessions and to try it for yourself.
    I know EFT sounds cuckoo. I really would have nothing to do with it if it didn’t work so well. I wouldn’t stake my professonal reputation earned in 25 years of experience as a nurse and counsellor on something so easily ridiculed as EFT if I wasn’t astounded by its results.But don’t trust me. Try it for yourself.

  4. I am now a retired mental health nurse. I have also worked as a counsellor within various setting and worked for more than 40 years within the NHS. I have seen various enthusiasms emerge and associated practice development – these include
    a) the introduction of Largactil,
    b) non-addictive Valium (at least that’s what ‘they’ said at the time)
    c) the pervasive belief that ECT was effective.
    d) the therapeutic relationship
    d) the introduction and emergent practice of CBT
    e) a plethora of various forms types of other medicaments.
    In all this time I have never seen any form of intervention work as quickly and as effectively with various and contrasting mental disorders and/or physical illnesses as EFT .
    Some evidence has been collected by Gary Craig and his colleagues and can be viewed by going to:
    I believe this is the least damaging and most effective of what I have encountered – respectfully during the past 40 odds years your experiences may be contrastingly different to mine.
    With best wishes

  5. Thanks Dave,

    You have far more experience in this arena than I have. I think it’s the nature of things that new procedures come and go. I think EFT will eventual take it’s place – not as a panacea but as a set of processes that work very well in some difficult cases (trauma especially).

    At some point someone will do the research that demonstrates this to the satisfaction of the psychological mainstream. I think we may have a bit of a wait on our hands for that happy day.

    All the best,


  6. Hey guys,

    I am currently at Roehampton University where in my current Non-fiction feature writing module we are producing our own features. I am writing a feature on EFT and could really use some help from either a doctor or nurse, in giving me their perspective, which I could then quote, that practices and knows a lot about EFT.

    What I really would like to know is HOW it works in ‘scientific’ terms?
    Where it is now being used across the UK in hospitals, practices etc?
    And what is the future for EFT?

    If I could get any form of response, I would be most grateful.

    Thank you and Kind Regards,


  7. Hi Alex,

    I work in the NHS but am not a doctor or a nurse – I am a psychotherapist, and in my current job I am lucky to be able to use EFT.

    In January this year I did a presentation at the EFT Gathering in Ilkley on “How to sell EFT to health professionals” and wrote a handout for this which touches on the points which you are interested in – I then published it as an article here – but if you would like an updated version of this handout, and/or want to chat, please feel free to get in touch through my website


  8. Hi All

    It is really great to see that there is a forum like this around. I am a CPN in Sunderland. I have recently qualified in TFT to diagnostic level and have been given the go ahead by my management to utilise TFT with my patients which I have been doing with some amazing results. It would be great to be able to link with other professionals in the area. I will hopefully try to get along to the next EFT cafe in June.



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